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MARINE1986

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Movies Should Be Free

Wed Apr 6, 2011 4:46 AM EDT
entertainment, money, movies, theater, actors, commercials, actresses, previews, popcorn, ticket-prices, movie-theater
By Marine1986
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So here we are, planes bombing and civil war in Libya, the government is about to shut down, and our economy is on a fragile standing. What am I going to write about? My latest movie theater experience.

I took my daughter to see a movie last weekend. About $22 for tickets and another $13 for popcorn and a soda (we shared). What did I get for my money? A series of advertisements on slides and a projector, then commercials for soda, various snacks and candies, and then eleven movie previews. ELEVEN MOVIE PREVIEWS?!

When we were finished with the movie I asked to see the manager of the theater, my daughter asked me what was going on. When the manager arrived I asked for my ticket money back. Puzzled, she ask me if there was a problem? I told her that I sat through roughly 30 minutes of commercials which should more than compensate the amount of money for my tickets. My daughter started to giggle, she's cute that way. This young lady, the theater manager, was dumbfounded, she didn't know how to react or what to say. Needless to say, she was not empowered to refund my money, but she did give me two free passes for my next movie. Very nice of her and much more than I expected, well done Stacey!

It got me thinking though, how much marketing are we all going to pay for? When you buy a DVD, do you want to be forced to sit through the movie previews? Some DVDs make it impossible to pass them by or even fast forward through them. You MUST WATCH them to get to the movie you wanted and paid money for (if you are pirating these videos, that is stealing).

Why are we forced to sit through commercials at the movie theater? Someone is making a bundle of money, forget that ticket prices are very high, soda being more than a gallon of gasoline, and the popcorn going for 400% over actual costs. Why do we act as sheep? Some people actually go to some movies to see the previews. To me, this is stupid; with the internet, go watch them there!

We do get to see the movies uncut and without interruptions (although the gentleman two rows back couldn't shut his mouth, you know who you are!). Isn't this what we pay for? If there were no commercials, would the movie tickets be $30 a piece? Many movies don't recoup the money they shell out to make them, why penalize us? Why not get cheaper actors, writers, etc.?

I think this is absurd, please comment and tell me I am wrong. Otherwise, please let me know what we can do to solve this increasingly annoying problem. We can after-all, stop going to the movies and get back to reading books. Anyway enough of my angry rant; my daughter is looking forward to our next movie together and so am I. Maybe we will get a Diet Pepsi, we saw a cool ad for it in the theater, LOL.

That's my take, not yours.

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Grisham

Yep. Couldn't agree more, Marine. I don't even mind a few movie trailers, but 14 is crazy. All the reasons you mentioned is why I wait for them to hit my local video store. It's cheaper and more comfortable. I can sit in my livingroom, never have to listen to loud mouths near me who have no respect for the other people who paid money to see the show and eat better and cheaper in the process. It's a win-win, really.

  • 8 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Apr 6, 2011 5:16 AM EDT
Randi is a girl

It depends on how early someone gets to the theater. If you get there 30 minutes before the movie is supposed to start I understand but if it was 30 minutes of trailers after the designated time I understand.

  • 1 vote
#1.1 - Thu Apr 7, 2011 1:41 PM EDT
IndependentAmerican2892850

For the money<gasp> I would like to see a return to the theater experiences of my youth. For my siblings and me going to the movies was a respite from poverty and in the summer, the heat. There were always cartoons and/or "shorts". There was an intermission so you could stretch your legs or use the restroom/snack-bar. Best of all, sometimes there were double features. I would not complain about the cost if the theaters would return to their roots. Also, there used to be ushers who would shush the talkers and eject the smokers/food throwers.

  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Thu Apr 7, 2011 4:00 PM EDT
Rockyroad-531554

Intermission would be GREAT!! *restroom breaks as we grow older* : )

I remember the cartoon shorts as well and miss them greatly.

  • 3 votes
#1.3 - Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:39 AM EDT
Marine1986

Rocky, I agree with you there. That would be great for people with young kids too...

  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:40 AM EDT
Lady Bug

Sometimes the cartoons where better then the movie...just saying

  • 2 votes
#1.5 - Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:42 AM EDT
SCTexan

I basically all but quit going when tickets reached $7. I go maybe once a year now, to the matinee. Between the costs, the unruly patrons and the lack of interest in being preached to by most movies, I just don't find it a worth while experience.

  • 1 vote
#1.6 - Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:09 AM EDT
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NYPeach

LOL...good read. You're right about all the previews before the movie is actually shown. My son goes to the movies at least once a week (he's a huge movie buff)....I don't know how he tolerates it. I'm like Grisham....I'd rather wait for a movie to come out on DVD.

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Apr 6, 2011 9:20 AM EDT
Dennis Kemmerer

NYPeach wrote:

I'd rather wait for a movie to come out on DVD.

Agreed.

If it's a good movie now, it'll be a good movie a year from now.

I can count on one hand the number of movies I've seen in theaters in the last 20 years and still have a few fingers leftover.

  • 2 votes
#2.1 - Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:12 PM EDT
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katrix

I agree. In the good old days, they showed cartoons before the movie started. If I'm paying for the ticket, I shouldn't have to watch ads - or the theater should show the time the actual feature starts, so you can come in at the right time.

  • 3 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Apr 6, 2011 12:14 PM EDT
Venator

I actually look forward to movie previews, but 14? Of course, how big of a gap was there between the scheduled start time of the movie and when you go to your set? Because I typically get a set 15-30 minutes before the scheduled start time (that start time does include 3-4 previews), but for that 15-30 minute waiting period, I really would not mind watching 15 previews.

I usually eat before I get to the theater, but I typically get a small soda to support the theater.

I prefer to see a movie the day or weekend it comes out, because I enjoy being surround by individuals who are also looking forward to the movie. I enjoy sharing the experience with others.

  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Apr 6, 2011 12:22 PM EDT
MariahWebb

"Why not get cheaper actors, writers, etc.?"

The entertainment business is based on supply and demand, just as any other capitalist industry. Lets take Black Swan as an example. The movie was horrible. It was a complete melodrama. And at times, I had to stifle laughs. However, Natalie Portman is HOT right now. Although the plot sounded very intriguing, she was the initial reason this movie got any attention, and the reason why people loved it. If they has hired a "cheaper actor" to play her role, i promise the movie would have flopped.
It is NOT fair to anybody, I agree. As an actress, I can think of many examples where an unknown actress could have done a phenomenal job in a role that a big name stunk up (anything with Miley Cyrus.) As we speak there are plans to remake the Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie. The two names rumored to be offered the title role? Megan Fox and Vanessa Hudgens. Hiring one of these actresses will bring in a younger and larger demographic (and alienate loyal Buffy fans.) Also, Joss Whedon, the man who CREATED the Buffy universe, has not been invited onto the project. They ARE going for a cheaper, unknown writer and people are furious about it.

All of this really just goes to say; its not as simple as free tickets and no previews. This is how people make their living, or don't. If you feel so strongly about it, try the dollar theaters. There are some good ones.

PS. Free popcorn tricks: Buy a small, eat half of it, crunch it up and go complain about it and ask for more.
OR get to the theatre before they clean it from the last movie. Search for larges, clean them out, and ask for a free refill.

  • 1 vote
Reply#5 - Wed Apr 6, 2011 2:45 PM EDT
Marine1986

Mariah (BTW I love your name), you make valid points. The theaters and the studios are, after all, just corporations driven for profits.

Thanks for the popcorn advice. LOL

  • 2 votes
#5.1 - Thu Apr 7, 2011 6:31 AM EDT
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WakeUpPeople-1385514

one word for you. Arclight Cinemas. It's how movie theaters should be run! My wife and I won't go anywhere else.

You can buy the tickets online. It's assigned seating (not general admission). The movie time listed is the time the film's first frame starts playing. You can show up one minute before the movie starts, and your seat is ready and waiting for you. Ushers stay in the theater throughout the show to ensure picture and sound are correct and also escort anyone causing disturbances OUT, without waiting for other movie-goers to complain.

the seats are wider than normal theaters and more padded, the armrests are twice as wide (and fold up) compared to normal theaters and there is something like 6 or 8" more space between rows compared to normal theaters. And all the theaters are stadium seating.

Each arclight has a restaurant in it, and when you are seated they ask what show time you have. They make sure all your food and check come out in time for you to finish eating and make it to the show. For those that drink alcohol, there is a full bar in the restaurant plus they have 21+ showings of films in the theater(s) right next to the bar. The whole area is roped off and you can bring your drinks into the theater with you.

All the theaters have digital projection and great digital sound systems. All the theaters are also acoustically treated, which means they sound GOOD.

Best of all, the Arclight in Hollywood (if you are ever in hollywood) has the "cineramadome" theater. It's a roughly 800 seat movie theater with a dome ceiling and a HUGE (something like 80ft) screen. The sound system is incredible there too, it has around 50 speakers, with all the surround speakers' placements calculated by computer. Action movies are awesome in there. I highly recommend it.

https://www.arclightcinemas.com/

If you are an avid movie-goer and don't have an arclight near you, you should write to them and tell them they should open one in your area. They have been expanding and taking over some Showtime and AMC theaters around LA. They do display ads and movie trailers, but since seating is assigned, you don't have to sit through the ads and trailers to ensure you got the seat you wanted. When you buy the tickets (either online or at the ticket counter) you see a map/seating chart of the theater and can see which seats are open (just like buying tickets for a sports game or concert). You could wait and just show up right when the movie starts, or hang out at the restaurant or bar until the movie start time. It's great!

  • 7 votes
Reply#6 - Wed Apr 6, 2011 7:28 PM EDT
Grisham

Sounds like paradise, Wake. I like the movie theatre experience, but the rudeness of people keeps me away. If I'm going to pay that kind of money for a show, they should have ushers present to keep the morons in line.

Another good way to catch a show is a drive-in. I have one a half hour from my house. For $11 you can see three movies on long weekends. Can't beat that!

  • 3 votes
#6.1 - Wed Apr 6, 2011 7:54 PM EDT
WakeUpPeople-1385514

Another cool thing about Arclight here in hollywood, since it is Hollywood they get a lot of big directors and producer and actors coming in. So when movies come out, they'll do a special screening and have the director and some of the actors get up in front of everyone and talk about the film.

The producers will also leave relics and memorabilia from the film for the Theater. For example, when Iron Man came out, the producers of the film let the Arclight display the actual iron man suit Robert Downey Jr wore in the film. It was in the lobby, with some velvet rope around it. It was there for a couple months. They do stuff like that all the time, it's very interesting.

It is an amazing experience. I found out about it because I work in TV/Film and pretty much all of us who work in the industry go there to see films, because it's such a better experience than any other theater I've ever been to.

  • 4 votes
#6.2 - Wed Apr 6, 2011 8:13 PM EDT
Marine1986

Nice Wake, I will check out the website. Regrettably, I live in Ohio. Thanks for your comments.

Thanks everyone!

  • 3 votes
#6.3 - Thu Apr 7, 2011 6:25 AM EDT
Cooper1

I'm with Grisham. I like the drive-in. There's one about 45 minutes from me, so, once in a blue moon, we get to go watch two movies for nine bucks. Best part, we grab something to eat before we get there, stop at a convenience store for snacks and drinks, so no expensive trips to the over-priced concession stand. And no loudmouths blaring in our ears, because we're in our vehicle.

  • 3 votes
#6.4 - Thu Apr 7, 2011 12:01 PM EDT
Marine1986

Grish, I found one within 20 minutes drive of my house. Going to check it out next weekend!

Thanks for the advice!

  • 3 votes
#6.5 - Thu Apr 7, 2011 1:55 PM EDT
katrix

Grisham, Cooper, Marine - I'd better not hear that any of you have a baby on the way after your drive-in trips. Because you know, when you're in a vehicle with your sweetie, and thinking back to your high school drive-in days ... wait, never mind. Vehicles were a lot bigger back then. The back seat of my pickup isn't comfortable for adults, and there's a shifter in the middle of my bucket seats up front.

BRING BACK BENCH SEATS so drive-ins can be like they used to be. Assert your rights!

  • 3 votes
#6.6 - Thu Apr 7, 2011 9:11 PM EDT
Cooper1

Lol, katrix. No, none of that goingon when we go. Our daughter goes with us, so it wouldn't be appropriate. Not a bad idea, tho, if we were to go alone :)

  • 2 votes
#6.7 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 7:10 AM EDT
Marine1986

LOL - I am laughing. It would be a physical impossibility for us to have more children. All I am saying.

Peace.

  • 4 votes
#6.8 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 7:40 AM EDT
Cooper1

I'm right there with you, Marine. Not possible anymore for us either. I still like to try, though :)

  • 3 votes
#6.9 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 8:09 AM EDT
katrix

You can still bring back a little of the lovin' feeling if you break in whatever the next vehicle you get is. Start in the car or truck (make sure any kids are asleep, or are at a neighbors' if you have no privacy - and make sure it is dark outside). Go just far enough that you can feel proud that you broke in a vehicle at your age. Then go inside, where it's comfortable, and either carry on, or fall asleep, depending on the ages of your kids and how much sleep you get. Or your ages. Or all the things that #$&(#$*n things up.. Still, reality is wonderful!

  • 2 votes
#6.10 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 11:09 PM EDT
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jeanette-1355722

I love going to the movies. Nothing is better than sitting in a comfortable seat and seeing the big screen. Some of the advertisements are pretty good and we get confused with adds and previews. Then the movie comes on and what happens next? Someone sits nearby with a large popcorn that smells so good and I am starving for some. but weighing the cost of popcorn and drinks, I couldn't afford to buy it. they would sell a lot more if they lowered the prices. I just can't see paying for my ticket (senior discount) and spending $13 or $14 for snacks. Sometimes I think the film producers should get the actors for a cheaper rate. If they offered $2 million and the actress or actor wanted $20 million and a cut of the profits, then just go somewhere else.

  • 4 votes
Reply#7 - Thu Apr 7, 2011 12:01 PM EDT
katrix

When I worked at a theater, tickets cost $4. We got twenty-seven cents out of that ticket price, I think. I'm sure the ratio is still about the same. That is why the concessions cost so much. A ninety cent box of popcorn (if you can even envision such a thing) cost us 1.5 cents, cup included. But again, that is the only way the theaters make money.

Jeanette, have you ever reached over and stolen a handful of a stranger's popcorn ;)

I'd rather watch a movie at home, unless it's something REALLY good and I have several friends who want to go.

  • 1 vote
#7.1 - Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:37 PM EDT
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Shub Tnediserp Remrof

You know you could simply go to the library and check out a movie it is free after all plus you don;t have to watch to watch the previews if you don't want.

  • 4 votes
Reply#8 - Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:54 AM EDT
katrix

Yeah, but the big screen and the surround sound, and all that ... minus the cell phones and texting and concession prices ... yep, home is normally better.

  • 1 vote
#8.1 - Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:39 PM EDT
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Kearney Outlaw

Who goes to movies to watch the movies, anyway?

No one who's been at the theater the last couple of times I've been, anyway.

Screw'em. Theaters have had the last of the money I've spent on their product.

  • 2 votes
Reply#9 - Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:20 PM EDT
katrix

Most of them seem to go to text their friends.

  • 2 votes
#9.1 - Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:39 PM EDT
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